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Winselmann Sewing Machine Serial Numbers Antique Singer Sewing Machines by Serial Number 1871 -1950 The first Singer sewing machine was manufactured in 1851, but some of the logbooks from that time period were lost. This is Frister & Rossmann, a High arm TS Variant 4, serial number 1110685, manufactured in about 1905 and sold through W. Pierssene 49 Fore Street London. The gold decals are in the Oak Leaves style. It has a new patented bobbin winder. Robert Frister & Gustav Rossmann started a small sewing machine workshop in 1864 near Berlin.
Prentice
South Carolina USA
Skill: Beginner
Skill: Beginner
I have acquired a Gritzner VZ treadle. It's the same machine that was branded 'White All-Stitch Zig Zag' in the USA in the early to mid 50's.
I really need a manual or at least a COPY of one in English.
Finding one online will make you a Google God IMO.
Help please!
I really need a manual or at least a COPY of one in English.
Finding one online will make you a Google God IMO.
Help please!
bestgrammy
Oregon USA
Skill: Intermediate
Skill: Intermediate
Posted on: 3/28/14 0:30 AM ET
Besides the name of the sewing machine...is there a model #??
TeeGee
International CANADA
Skill: Intermediate
Skill: Intermediate
Posted on: 3/28/14 1:37 AM ET
I assume your sewing machine looks like this ?
The reason Gritzner made that model for White was that White didn't make any zig zag sewing machines at the time.Sears sold White sewing machines that were actually made by Gritzner.The Lady Kenmore is one of famous sewing machines made by Gritzner.The Pfaff 280 is the same sewing machine,only the color is different.
Usually one can find White sewing machine manuals at the Singer site,if one has the White sewing machine model number.Because the sewing machine model you have was made by Gritzner in Germany,the manual might not be available at the Singer site.Maybe you can find a manual for sale somewhere online,once you find a model number somewhere on your sewing machine.
Here are 8 more pictures,including sewing machine manual pages 1 and 2 you can enlarge when you click on the picture.
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The reason Gritzner made that model for White was that White didn't make any zig zag sewing machines at the time.Sears sold White sewing machines that were actually made by Gritzner.The Lady Kenmore is one of famous sewing machines made by Gritzner.The Pfaff 280 is the same sewing machine,only the color is different.
Usually one can find White sewing machine manuals at the Singer site,if one has the White sewing machine model number.Because the sewing machine model you have was made by Gritzner in Germany,the manual might not be available at the Singer site.Maybe you can find a manual for sale somewhere online,once you find a model number somewhere on your sewing machine.
Here are 8 more pictures,including sewing machine manual pages 1 and 2 you can enlarge when you click on the picture.
-- Edited on 3/28/14 1:49 AM --
Al Johnson
Minnesota USA
Skill: Advanced Beginner
Skill: Advanced Beginner
WOW, that is a gorgeous machine!
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beauturbo
California USA
Skill: Advanced
Skill: Advanced
Why don't you just use the German language manual that is free instead? Even if you don't speak German. Or just use a manual for the same machine with no zig zag function, as almost the same except for one top tension device and not two of them, but that's no big deal at all. For sewing kind of things, it's pretty much all visual for just using and threading up any machine, and all you really need are the photo's or drawings of anything anyways. Sort of just even like any sewing patterns! Actual written language then, is not really all that important at all.
Maybe there was never any real English written manual for it even. I'm thinking that could even be, just because even on the timing of that machine, you had Gritzner, then went to Gritzner-Kayser, then just about around there, you had Pfaff even buy them up.
The machine is not all that different than a Pfaff 130 that even Pfaff was trying to sell overseas in USA about at the same time. And I think it would have been more important for them to even sell their own Pfaff 130 to people that spoke English at that point, so probably not even in their best interest, to sell it and import that other one you got, with an English written manual at all.
Maybe there was never any real English written manual for it even. I'm thinking that could even be, just because even on the timing of that machine, you had Gritzner, then went to Gritzner-Kayser, then just about around there, you had Pfaff even buy them up.
The machine is not all that different than a Pfaff 130 that even Pfaff was trying to sell overseas in USA about at the same time. And I think it would have been more important for them to even sell their own Pfaff 130 to people that spoke English at that point, so probably not even in their best interest, to sell it and import that other one you got, with an English written manual at all.
TeeGee
International CANADA
Skill: Intermediate
Skill: Intermediate
Posted on: 3/29/14 6:52 PM ET
I agree,I would use the German language manual,or try and find an English language manual for sale.
Many sewing machines came to North America with either people visiting Europe and bringing a European model sewing machine back home or immigrants brought them,before they were imported.I remember reading a book,early settlers brought different brand sewing machines to North America too.In my neck of the woods I find a lot of old British made Singers.
Recently my neighbor gave me a German made Winselmann treadle.It hasn't been used for over 50 years,(I think it's over 100 years old by the low serial number).I don't have a manual for the treadle,I think it works similar like an old Singer treadle.
Many sewing machines came to North America with either people visiting Europe and bringing a European model sewing machine back home or immigrants brought them,before they were imported.I remember reading a book,early settlers brought different brand sewing machines to North America too.In my neck of the woods I find a lot of old British made Singers.
Recently my neighbor gave me a German made Winselmann treadle.It hasn't been used for over 50 years,(I think it's over 100 years old by the low serial number).I don't have a manual for the treadle,I think it works similar like an old Singer treadle.
Prentice
Brother Sewing Machine
South Carolina USA
Skill: Beginner
Skill: Beginner
There is an English manual as the link in the second reply illustrates. I'm just trying to find a copy of it.
TeeGee
International CANADA
Skill: Intermediate
Skill: Intermediate
Posted on: 3/30/14 11:00 PM ET
Quote: Prentice
There is an English manual as the link in the second reply illustrates. I'm just trying to find a copy of it.
There is an English manual as the link in the second reply illustrates. I'm just trying to find a copy of it.
Winselmann Sewing Machine Serial Numbers
What is the model number on your Gritzner treadle ?I have an antique Gritzner hand crank sewing machine,it can sew beautiful stitches.
Prentice
South Carolina USA
Skill: Beginner
Skill: Beginner
Gritzner VZ (Vera Zwei)
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-- Edited on 3/31/14 6:30 AM --
Prentice
South Carolina USA
Skill: Beginner
Skill: Beginner
It is EXACTLY like the White All-Stitch Zig Zag, except its green.
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